Tuesday 23 July 2013

CLASSIC INTERVIEW: My interview with Mr. Goh Meng Seng (former SG, National Solidarity Party), 22/7/2013

Introduction by Kieran James: Here is the interview requested by Mr. Patrick Lee Song Juan!! This is my question-and-answer session with Mr. Goh Meng Seng achieved via email correspondence:

Kieran James 1 Hi GMS. How is life going for you these days in Hong Kong?

GMS: Life is great in Hong Kong but I am travelling quite often nowadays.
Mr. Patrick Lee Song Juan, SDA candidate 2011 GE

KJ2: I noticed when you first went to HK you mixed up posts on FB about Singapore with HK posts but now it is only Singapore posts. Is there any reason for this?

GMS: Initially I wanted to share posts on HK to my FB friends so that they could get a better idea of the differences between HK and SG, at the same time to understand how could SG learn the better things from HK while avoid[ing] the bad ones. But apparently people get annoyed by such comparisons basically because they feel hurt. It is regrettable and ironic as Singapore is always making all sorts of comparisons with other countries to make us look good and to build up our National Pride while ignoring the sensitivity of other countries. I would rather we as a Nation start to look at how or what good points other countries or places have in order for us to keep learn[ing] from others to improve ourselves rather than indulging in self glorification. Nevertheless, I respect the feelings of my FB friends and thus have cut down such postings on HK.   

KJ3: What are the positives and negatives of living in each city based on your own experiences?

GMS: None of these cities is perfect and it would be good if we can get the best of both cities incorporated into one. In spite of being under PRC rule, Hong Kong is one of the rare places in Asia that enjoys a high level of freedom and liberty. It is also a city with very high efficiency in various systems, particularly its public transport and subway system. Unfortunately it is over populated with more than 7 million. It is getting very cramp[ed] in HK and quality of living may be compromised. Air pollution is still a problem although it has improved over the years due to the reduction of the number of factories in nearby Shenzhen. Food security is still a concern as most of the fresh supplies come from Mainland China. Of course, rental and housing prices are just too high in Hong Kong.

Most important thing I enjoy in HK is the great level of freedom and robust debates on various issues of the day provided by all the media, including radio, TV, newspaper and new media.

As for Singapore, it is also getting crowded and most importantly it really lacks the level [of] freedom I enjoy in Hong Kong. For example, I can go for 100K or 200K mass protest march without much incident and with full cooperation of the police. People basically can speak up their minds and express their views and feelings in various ways on a daily basis in HK but not in Singapore. Yes, Singapore is opening up with more activities at Hong Lim Park but that is about all we have.

On top of that, after experiencing the highly efficient public transport system in Hong Kong, Singapore’s system really pale in comparison, though it is still better than other developing countries around us.

What I miss is the food in Singapore. The vast variety of food that I enjoy in Singapore is something that no other places can replicate. Of course, in my home ground, I would feel much comfortable with people communicating in Singlish and Hokkien. I will definitely feel at home in Singapore.  

KJ4: Looking back now with the benefit of hindsight how do you perceive your time as SG of NSP and what would you do differently if you could (as the song goes) turn back time?

GMS: I always believe there is no “Ifs” in politics. [In] hindsight, a lot of things should have done better but this lacks consideration of the constraints we face back then. Some feel that we should have gone ahead with the Moulmein Kallang contest even if it means a hard clash with a 3 corner fight facing WP and PAP. Some feel that we should send the “strongest” team to Tampines and should not spread too thin all over Singapore from East to West. But even if we look at the situation now [in] hindsight, it is actually a right strategy to spread to the West. If we were to concentrate on the East back in GE2011, by next GE NSP will face a very big problem with no wards without three corner fights with WP! At the very least, right now, NSP still [has] CCK, Pioneer, Jurong East and of course, places surrounding these places with good potential ground for contest[s] without [many] disruptive 3 corner fights for next GE.

However, there are things which I feel I could have done proper[ly]. I should have raised the media exposure in Tampines to the fullest with more beating of the drums there. This is the gravest tactical blunder I have made.

On the other hand, I am proud to say NSP was run on the most democratic principles as a political party in Singapore. However, it would also mean that certain things have been compromised. I could have exercised more FIRM leadership style instead of being too liberal and democratic in certain processes and aspects. I am still searching for a better balance between democratic rule and strong leadership.

All in all, I have no regrets in my involvement as the SG of NSP. I am privileged and honoured to be given the opportunity to serve as NSP SG and lead it through the GE2011.   

KJ5: What are the general views out on the streets of HK about Singapore these days?

GMS: The HK administration under CY Leung seems to have high regards [for] Singapore’s political system, particularly our HDB system. They are sending quite a few field study groups to Singapore to study our HDB system as well as our municipal waste management system, particularly our incinerators. The HK Chief Executive CY Leung used to work closely with his business partners in Singapore and thus naturally he is not a stranger to Singapore. Although it is clear that Hong Kong has its strength in certain aspects as compared to Singapore, but they are still trying to learn the strength of Singapore’s system to supplement their deficiencies in certain areas. They have even appointed George Yeo as a member of their government think tank! Singapore should not be too complacent else we risk losing in absolute comparative as well as competitive advantage to Hong Kong.  

KJ6: What are your future plans in terms of contesting future Sg elections and if yes with which party?

GMS: I have wished to take a back seat for next GE as there should be enough good people coming forward to serve and develop our democratic system. However the various happenings in recent months or even for the last two years have somewhat made me rethink the state of our opposition parties. We may just need to build a THIRD FORCE as the “back-seater” who will give a good tight slap to both the driver and co-driver when both are sleeping on the drive. But I may have to reconsider my options to get my hands dirty again but this will have to have the blessings of my family members.

As for which party it would if I so decide to fight the electoral battle again, I have not given any thought about that. It may be a new party or just an old one.      

KJ7: What do you think of Singapore civil society in the past couple of years and is it really changing for the better?

GMS: Civil Society in Singapore has definitely improved tremendously for the past few years. The two successful 6.9 protests [are] an important indication of the changing environment for Civil Society in Singapore. However, I think structurally, NGOs in Singapore [still] have a long way to go. We still lack strong leadership in various NGOs that could push for their pet issues. NGOs ideally could push for issues without the fear or losing political votes. But in reality, if NGOs were to be successful, they will still need to win over public support on the issues they are fighting for. That will need quite a bit of Public Relations and campaigning skills.  

KJ8: What do you think of the increasingly common practice of activists using aliases including of course Singa Crew and more recently the very humorous Jam Cruisers?

GMS: There are two perspectives on this issue of anonymity on internet. I would think that they are still arrested by FEAR somehow, unsure of what the authorities would do to them. i.e. it basically means that these people do not trust the PAP at all. The second angle to look at this issue is that activists do not have the confiden[ce] in themselves to deliver good reasoned comments that make more sense other than just senseless attacks on their political opponents. Satire may be a way of expression but not necessarily the best way of expression.

Freedom of Speech and expression must be built upon good reason and responsible speeches cum expressions. Many people abuse Freedom of Speech by putting up lies, extremist views, defamation etc but little do they know they will give the authoritarian government excuses to put curbs and restrictions on overall freedom of speech. Their selfish intention is detrimental to Singapore’s democratic development.

KJ9: Do you think the Punggol East by-election shows that any seat is a 50% chance of going either way?

GMS: I would think that Punggol East by-election should sound a big alarm bell to PAP. For WP to win the by-election with a relatively weak candidate amidst a 4 corner fight would mean that it is highly possible for PAP to lose in every ward where WP contests in next GE. It is potentially disastrous for PAP even if PAP retain 50% of the seats. This is because PAP will be losing almost half of its “ministerial-talents” under the present GRC system. PAP may end up having the smaller majority with inadequate or mediocre people to be its ministers. In the end, it may become a vicious cycle for its future. 

KJ10: Have you any messages for your supporters, friends, etc. in Singapore?

GMS: Many of my supporters and friends have sent private blessings and wishes to me throughout these two years. Some of them have urged me to make a come-back to Singapore opposition politics and some of them have expressed utter disappointment with some of the development[s] in Singapore. I would like to thank them for their ardent support and trust bestowed upon me but I would like [to] urge them to give Democracy a chance to work it out. Let the present opposition parties and MPs some more time to readjust and perform up to their expectations. Yes, this is already “half-time” since last GE but the path of Democracy is never easy. As for me, I would take their support and plea[s] very seriously into consideration on whether to make a come-back or not.

KJ11: OK, serious question and you can reply "no comment": if you were a voter in Aljunied or Hougang would you vote WP or PAP at the next election (assuming only these two parties contest)?

GMS: At this stage of democratic development, even though we have WP making a break through in winning Aljunied GRC, but we are still at a very infant stage of success. Even though from recent happenings we realize that both WP and PAP stink but I still think PAP stinks more. Most importantly, at this stage of Political-Social-Economic development, monopoly of power by any ruling party is unhealthy for the Nation. Thus, if WP’s candidates are decent and slightly above average, though [they] may not meet PAP’s “super talents”, I would still vote WP.

Having said that, I must caution supporters that even though we may vote WP into parliament but we must always bear in mind not to spoil them but instead constantly keep them on their toes. The last thing we want is to end up with their Success to become the mother of their future Failures.

KJ12: Last question: can the opposition finally win Tampines GRC this time around and what improved strategy or efforts are needed to win over swinging voters?

GMS: Tampines GRC can be won if a few conditions are right: no three or multi-corner fight[s], sensible and reasoned deliberation of National policies, consistency in ground engagement and strengthen literature on the need for the Nation to progress from monologue in power construction to diversity in national construct[ion]. Of course, there are other strategies which I have reservation[s] [about] making public at this moment.

***End of interview***

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